what if i told you guys he and barack obama are almost literally the same candidate
and that obama is also very, very similar to bush
I would tell you that you are literally completely wrong.
And that while I disagree with Obama on the invasive foreign policy actions he has taken - namely drone strikes and failing to close down Guantanamo - I simply cannot afford Romney’s domestic policy. My body is not up for grabs with an Obama presidency. My insurance doesn’t discriminate against me with an Obama presidency. My ability to take legal action against an employer who subjects me to pay discrimination on the basis of my gender doesn’t disappear with an Obama presidency.
If none of those things are important for you, by all means, vote for Romney. Vote for a third party. Don’t vote at all. But they are matters of life and death for me, and I do not take this civic duty lightly.
If one more person says this crap, I will scream
They are NOT the same candidate. Obama is not perfect, but as said above, many of us have a hell of a lot to lose should Romney win. So if you’re gonna sit back and not vote or vote for a 3rd party when people are depending on Obama to win in order for them to stay healthy, housed, and alive? Then fuck you.
You wanna reform our political process? Feel free. I’m all for it! But start from the ground and move UP. The presidential election, especially this one, is not the place to start and you throwing your vote away helps NO ONE.
Before I really get into my opinions on all this, let me list the factual similarities between Obama and Romney in the powers they will actually be able to wield as President:
1. Both support military action in Syria.
2. Both support military action in Iran.
3. Both support an increase in military spending (the only disagreement is in how much of an increase is appropriate).
4. Both support the continued drone strikes in Yemen and Pakistan that have so far been responsible for killing over 2500 people.
5. Both support continued spying on American citizens.
6. Both support continuing the drug war, which is responsible for the US having more prisoners per capita than any other country in the world.
7. Both support drones flying over American cities.
8. Both support the continued operation of Guantanamo.
I would list more, especially as it applies to economics, but I said only the powers they will actually be able to wield as President. Here is the only factual difference between the two:
1. Romney would likely enforce the Defense of Marriage Act, whereas Obama has ceased that enforcement.
That’s it. Everything else listed in the posts above are NOT powers of the President of the United States. Sure, Romney may support banning of all abortions in the US, but he has literally no power as President to stop them (I’m not sure if he actually does, just using an example). In the same respect, Obama has no power to legalize gay marriage across the country (nor do I think he would really want to). All of the things listed above that are so important to the two commenters are functions of the US Congress.
I welcome any comments on the above.
Now, as for my opinions on the matter…
Within the next three years there will be an attack on Iran. There will only be a difference on how it plays out depending on who is in power. If Obama wins the election, the attack will likely be billed as an Israeli attack with ally assistance, de-emphasizing the American involvement. If Romney wins, it will be an American attack in partnership with Israel. But there will be little difference between the two other than the rhetoric.
Regardless of who is elected we will be militarily involved in Syria within the next two years.
Both of these scenarios are UNACCEPTABLE to me. And since both major party presidential candidates support them I cannot support either of the candidates.
Also, to stfusexists, who said “But they are matters of life and death for me”, check your god-damned privilege. The people who are killed overseas by our drone strikes and military action? They are the ones who actually have life and death consequences in this election. Your perceived discrimination that may or may not take place based on our sitting President is not a matter of life and death, and fuck you for equating the two. What actually could be a matter of life and death in this election are the domestic drug and law enforcement policies of the candidates, but since they’re both the same for Obama and Romney it really doesn’t matter which one you pick.
Also, depending on how the next few months plays out, we could see something extremely interesting happen in this election. Gary Johnson had massive bi-partisan support in New Mexico during his two terms as Governor. There is a chance that he could win the state of New Mexico. And if that happens, there is a chance that neither Obama nor Romney would have the electoral votes to win the presidency. That is something I’d really like to see.